if someone can try my method, maybe with some changes, and tell me how it goes, i would appreciate it, as i think i could maybe write it down and share it
Host was pretty confident that the phenomenon was real because it would be weird that so many people claimed stuff like that, so we started mostly just to test how far it would go.
Yes, that's what she says. She says sometimes their 'paras' from the dreams become so real they become tulpas, which is a very different procces for someone who is not a maladaptive daydreamer and chooses to make a tulpa and actually had to do the work of creating them
I always hate the "it happens naturally therefore ... " argument.
8:58 PM
Natural is not a defined thing. Everything we exeperience is something that happens naturally on the brain.
8:59 PM
We define what a mental illness is and it requires distress, and tulpamancy doesnt check that box for me... so tulpamancy itself is not a mental illness.
9:00 PM
Plurality does constitute a part of many disorders but that doesnt mean that it is one or that it necesarilly implies one.
9:01 PM
All arguments based on "naturality" are allways wrong.
9:02 PM
The point trying to be made might be correct but the argument is not.
Chiaroscuro
Tulpas from a maladaptive daydreaming perspective: https://youtu.be/i7bzSQLM-Jk
Do you all think she's describing tulpamancy accurately? (edited)
Well, I agree that tulpamancy isn't a closed practice, because anyone can think about a person in their head until they become what we call a tulpa. I just don't agree with her statement that "it's not a closed practice, it's a mental illness"
Aya
Well, I agree that tulpamancy isn't a closed practice, because anyone can think about a person in their head until they become what we call a tulpa. I just don't agree with her statement that "it's not a closed practice, it's a mental illness"
Thats the problem. I dont see a consistent meaning for that word.
9:35 PM
All arguments based on something being natural are flawed because the definition of natural is flawed (and often because the underlaying logic of the argument is just wanting that thing to be true).(edited)
Often the argument is "natural therefore good" but thats not always the case such as in this video, i just dont understand the logic step done to conclude natural therefore mental illness.
TiCtAc(✧×✧)
wow you are slowly understanding the uselessness of labels
Labels simplify the world into a "knowledge graph" or a logic construct.
9:42 PM
Which might be problematic but is also very useful as this allows us to transfer incredible ammounts of information in very few words since this logic construct is highly consistent across persons. That is to say "we work in shared assumptions therefore information exchange is very efficient".(edited)
Tulpamancy is about getting the feel for things which can be confusing for people when they approach it logically, pendulum makes you get the instant feel for something you are working towards
11:36 PM
i don’t think people need to know if it’s about this or that
Ive actually tried it just to test... For me either i realize im doing it or it just keeps spinning in circles...
But it might be because i know what the thing is about...
Ive actually tried it just to test... For me either i realize im doing it or it just keeps spinning in circles...
But it might be because i know what the thing is about...
Tulpamancy is about getting the feel for things which can be confusing for people when they approach it logically, pendulum makes you get the instant feel for something you are working towards
@Leiko (@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk) - jump
We still don't understand the goal of it. What you mean by "Tulpaancy is about getting a feel for things"?
Leiko
if you do just remember to not try to analyse it, just focus on the feel
We still don't understand the goal of it. What you mean by "Tulpaancy is about getting a feel for things"?
@Alexia (@Alejandro) - jump
tulpamancy is more emotional/intuitive process rather than intellectual, it’s emotional intelligence that is involved rather than the logical one
12:16 AM
sure it’s fine to analyse it but i would leave it for later because logic gets on the way in tulpamancy
gets in the way when you end up in an analysis paralysis before you get the feel of how tulpamancy works. i don’t think there is anything wrong with using logic later on
I don't know. As a skeptic and an overthinker, I don't think the pendulum would have helped me at all. I'd just conclude, it's micromovements and no reason to think my tulpa is communicating through that
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